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Duncan Descendants Family Reunion

Chicago | May 27–30, 2016

Dear Duncan Family:

We are excited about the upcoming reunion—less than 1 month away!

We have approximately 34 scheduled to attend. By email, you should have received a file with attendees, their contact information, as well as who has cars (for carpooling).

  • Staying in a Duncan home? Please check the file to see who you will be staying with.
  • Still need a room? Please let Bonnie know asap by clicking here.
  • Prefer a hotel? We recommend the Holiday Inn O’Hare, which is very close. Click here.

We are looking forward to seeing you!  Please let me know if you have any questions or comments or if there is anything I can help you with ahead of your trip!

See you Friday night at 7pm (at Joy’s)!

Bonnie

(ALWAYS UPDATED) WEBSITE:  http://www.duncan2016.myevent.com/ 

Duncan Descendants Family Reunion

Dates:  Friday, May 27 – Monday, May 30, 2016

Nearest Airport:  O’Hare (ORD) is 10 minutes from Duncan HQ.

Other Airport: Midway (MDW) is 40 minutes away.

Duncan Contacts:  Click here for Barb Duncan. Click here for Bonnie Tinder.

Facebook Reunion Site: Click here to post pictures, watch the weekend, comment and connect.

Weekend Lineup

Friday

7:00 pm — Italian Dinner & Welcome Kickoff at Joy Duncan Farina’s Home

Saturday

9:00 am— Breakfast at Taylor Duncan’s Home

11:00 am— Depart for Downtown Chicago Duncan Scavenger Hunt and Chicago Tour (weather permitting)

6:00 pm— Duncan Family Luau at Bonnie Duncan Tinder’s Home

Sunday

10:30 am— Worship Service Together at South Park Church

following— Lunch Together at South Park Church

afternoon— Group Activities around Chicago

5:00 pm— Dinner Together at Portillo’s in Niles

Monday

9:00 am— Park Ridge Memorial Day Parade and Activities

following— Visit to Wally Duncan’s Gravesite, Town of Maine Cemetery

afternoon— Departures

 

 

Register for the Reunion by Friday!

If you plan to join us for the 2016 Duncan Descendants Family Reunion (and you have not done so already), please fill out this 2-minute, preliminary registration form: Duncan Family Reunion 2016

The deadline is this Friday, January 15. Thank you. It helps us plan for you.

We’ve got 30 people signed up. Are we missing you? Sniff. Hope to see you there!

Chicago  |  Memorial Day Weekend  |  Friday, May 27 – Monday, May 30, 2016

Family Reunion 2016

Dear Family,
We are thrilled to be hosting the 2016 Duncan Descendants Family Reunion in Chicago! We’re looking forward to a time of connection and the opportunity to show you around our beautiful city. To gather RSVPs, disseminate logistical information and schedule updates, we have created a website. Please RSVP by January 15, 2016 to Duncan2016.myevent.com.

Duncan Descendants Family ReunionChicago

Memorial Day Weekend

Friday, May 27 – Monday, May 30, 2016

RSVP by January 15

Duncan2016.myevent.com

Duncan HQ: Barb Duncan’s home. You can find the address at Duncan2016.myevent.com .

Airports: O’Hare (ORD) is 10 minutes from Duncan HQ. Midway (MDW) is 40 minutes away.

Recommended Hotel: O’Hare Marriott, 8535 West Higgins Road, Chicago (773-693-4444).  A block of ten rooms has been reserved at a nightly rate of $124 under “Barb Padar/Padar-Duncan.”

Approximate Cost: $50–100/person for food and entertainment, not including transportation

Details: Duncan2016.myevent.com

Contact: Barb Duncan (phone numbers and email address at: Duncan2016.myevent.com)

Proposed Weekend Lineup
Friday
7:00 pm                Gathering and Dinner at Barb Duncan’s Home, Party Room

Saturday
9:00 am                Breakfast at Taylor and Sandra Duncan’s Home
11:00 am              Depart for Downtown Chicago (Joy Duncan Farina hosting; options may include Museum of Science and Industry, Botanical Garden, Lincoln Park Zoo, Brookfield Zoo)
6:00 pm                Family Dinner and Event Together (location TBD)

Sunday
9:00 am                Breakfast at Craig and Bonnie (Duncan) Tinder’s Home
10:45 am              South Park Church Service Together or Free Time
1:00 pm                Lunch Together at Dennis and Joy Duncan Farina’s Home
3:00 pm                Free Time or Downtown Chicago, Part 2 (Barbie Padar hosting)
5:00 pm                Gathering and Buffet Dinner at Barb Duncan’s Home, Party Room

Monday
9:00 am               Park Ridge Memorial Day Parade and Activities
Afternoon           Departures

RSVP by January 15, 2016 to Duncan2016.myevent.com.
And after you’ve done that, forward this link to others in the family who may not have heard!

 

Steve Falters on Dermatology, Kids Contract Chicken Pox

Steve Wearing Laurel Wreath at Medical School Graduation, 1974, courtesy of Marcia Duncan

Steve Wearing Laurel Wreath at Medical School Graduation, 1974, Harley Smith and Marcia Duncan also pictured, courtesy of Marcia Duncan

All his exams were oral and his graduation was also a combination of a—he had to represent his dissertation to a panel of medical doctors. And you could invite all your friends to come. Uncle Harley came over from France for his graduation.

So he sits at a table with this horseshoe of professors and he has to answer questions on his dissertation. Then they pronounced him with his medical degree. Then friends of ours brought a big laurel wreath, Italian friends, and put it around him. We probably have some pictures with us.

[Heidi]: Then they kicked him out of medical school.

Steve Being Booted Out of Medical School, 1974

Steve Being Booted Out of Medical School, 1974

Yes, that’s right. They had a tradition of all your friends line up in two rows and you run down between them and they kick you out of medical school.

Dawn, actually, was about three then, three and a half, and Heidi had just been born. Heidi was supposed to be born after he finished his final exams, but Heidi came a few days early. Heidi was born at something like, what, two o’clock in the morning? Then he had, that morning, he had—was it a pharmacology exam?

[Steve]: Dermatology.

A dermatology exam. So he walks into his examination and the professor asked him, “What happened to you?” because he’d been up most of the night. He said, “I just had a baby!”

Heidi was—basically we had to wait a month before we could fly home, in terms of her age.

We went home via France to visit Harley and Betty one more time.

[Dawn]: We got to stay there extra long.

We got to stay there extra long because one morning we woke up and Dawn had a pock on her face. Lo and behold, she had broken out with chicken pox, so we had to wait until she was no longer contagious before we could get on the flight.

[Stephanie]: Way to go, Dawn.

[TJ]: You all know that you’re eligible for shingles later on?

[Dawn]: I know it. My mother-in-law. . . .

[Stephanie]: Looking forward to it.

[TJ]: Patti had shingles and before it she had chicken pox. When she did, they kept me away from them. I didn’t have chicken pox.

[Victoria]: Maybe you did.

[Virginia?]: I never have had any.

Heidi, at a month old, eventually had one little pock on her face, so I don’t know if that means she had chicken pox or not. Kimberly and Stephanie got it in [Ben Lippen] high school.

[Stephanie]: Our junior year. We both came down with the chicken pox.

[Virginia?]: Ohhhhh. At the same time, huh?

[Stephanie]: Well, we had house-parents and their kids had chicken pox. I babysat for them. I think that’s how it all went down. It’s a little confusing because there were a bunch of people who came down at the same time with it. I was babysitting for them. Also a friend of mine. It was going around the school. It was the only thing I ever came down with in high school. I never even had a cold all through the years we were there. But it came through this particular set of house parents and their children. A bunch of us got it at the same time, but it was right before our final exams our junior year. I just remember that because I was in agony trying to study and we got it bad.

story told by Marcia (Steve’s wife) to the family reunion gathering on January 10, 2014 with interjections from Steve, Dawn, Heidi, and Stephanie (Steve’s daughters), Virginia Gorman (Lee’s daughter), TJ Ramey (Kathryn’s son), and Victoria his wife; transcribed by Dawn Duncan Harrell (Steve’s daughter)

Can you add to the story? Please do. Write in the box below. (You may need to click “Leave a Reply” above to make the box, name, and address fields appear.)

  • Any other Smith and Steve Duncan family stories from the “extra long” stay in France?
  • Anyone else have chicken pox or other childhood/epidemic diseases stories?
  • Any other stories from the trip home?
  • Mom and Dad/Marcia and Steve, can you send digital copies of the laurel wreath and kicking out photos for this story? Thanks.

Marcia Did Not Teach Burlesque in Italy

Cristoforo Colombo took Marcia, Steve, and Dawn to Italy, 1970.

Cristoforo Colombo took Marcia, Steve, and Dawn to Italy, 1970.

We did go to Italy.

I didn’t learn Italian ahead of time.

In fact we went separately. Steve flew there. He flew ahead to find a place for us to live and some work for me to do because I was going to be “putting hubby through,” so to speak. I had a trunk full of our household goods and at that time it was cheaper to go across on an ocean liner and take your trunk than it was to fly. So he flew and I came later.

I learned a little Italian on the ship. I was on the Italian lines. I met up with him in Italy there and then I took some Italian lessons when I was there. Basically we learned Italian from just living in the culture.

I remember. . . .

[Heidi]: The ship came into Venice.

No.

[Steve]: No, that was the second ship.

No, that was the second time we went back. The first time it came into . . . um.

[Steve]: No, uh, the other side of the peninsula.

[Heidi]: Florence?

[Steve]: Florence, no, um.

[Heidi]: I mean, um, Genoa.

[Steve]: Genoa.

Genoa! We came into Genoa.

[Heidi]: And then you trained across.

[Steve]: Yeah.

[Heidi]: To Padova.

Yeah. We did a lot of train travel in Padova.

[Eric]: While he was in medical school, you were working?

So then he found me a job in a Berlitz school, teaching English. So I taught English in a Berlitz school.

[Bruce]: Burlesque?

[Steve]: Burlesque?

Burlesque?

[laughter]

[Heidi]: Mom did burlesque to bring in the money.

And I learned a lot of, you know, I learned a lot of Italian teaching English, just because of the way the Italians would speak English. It helped me to learn how things were said.

[Heidi]: Twenty-six years later, I moved to Italy and lived in Venice and taught English in a Berlitz school and learned some of my Italian.

[Virginia]: Are you serious? Oh, Heidi, that’s awesome.

So after three years in Italy, he took an externship at Saint Elizabeth’s Hospital in Brighton. Came back for a period of six months. I came ahead. I was six months pregnant with Dawn. I came ahead and Dawn was born in the States at that hospital, Saint Elizabeth’s. He was not—were you here for the birth? You were back by the birth time. OK.

Then we went back to Italy and the second time we went back together in a ship. That’s when we went to Venice. On our way there, we stopped in various ports. So we were in Malaga, Spain. We stopped and visited Pompeii and we were in Naples and visited Pompeii.

[Steve]: We stopped in Sicily.

We did. We stopped in Sicily. And then we went up the Adriatic and stopped in Greece.

[Steve]: In Greece. We went to Greece.

We stopped at Piraeus. And then we took a day trip to Athens. And then we went over to Venice.

That gave us a chance to see a lot of places in Europe and when Dawn was baby, we traveled—when we had vacation times, we had a little VW Bug and traveled to various places, to visit places in Italy.

[Heidi]: You went to see Aunt Betty and Uncle Harley.

And we went to Austria also because we had met a couple on a ship—he was Austrian and she was American. They invited us to go to Austria to visit them at Christmastime, so we did a few things like that.

[Kimberly?]: Aunt Betty and Uncle Harley.

[Steve]: That was up in Switzerland. We had gone also, among other things, we saw where The Sound of Music was designed in Salzburg.

[Victoria]: Yeah. In Austria.

They lived in Salzburg, so they took us around to all the sites in Salzburg.

We traveled to Switzerland several times and met up with Aunt Betty and Uncle Harley there and Sandy and Debby. They would get apartments for missionaries in various places in Switzerland where we would have vacation time. So we would drive through the fog out of Italy, because it was usually very foggy at Christmastime.

Then I can remember one time when we were driving up in the mountains in Switzerland. Steve was not feeling good. Did you ask me to drive? And I was like. . . .

[Dawn]: Dad was in the back seat.

Dad, he would look out the window and see that it was a drop-off like this and he just closed his eyes and hoped we didn’t drop off.

Anyway, so we had a lot of good memories from those years. We were there for six years. Came home in 1974.

story told by Marcia (Steve’s wife) to the family reunion gathering on January 10, 2014 with additions from Steve and Heidi (Steve’s daughter) and interjections from Virginia Gorman, Bruce Kindberg, and Eric Kindberg (Lee’s children), Dawn Harrell and Kimberly Duncan (Steve’s daughters), and Victoria (TJ Ramey, Kathryn’s son’s wife), transcribed by Dawn Duncan Harrell (Steve’s daughter)

Can you add to the story? Please do. Write in the box below. (You may need to click “Leave a Reply” above to make the box, name, and address fields appear.)

  • Any other Smith and Steve Duncan family stories from those Christmastimes spent together that you’d like to tell?
  • Would someone please tell the flaming fondue table story?
  • Can someone relay the peanut butter story? Didn’t Harley and Betty come to Italy for that story? What was the context?
  • How about going to France to help build the camp one summer story?
  • Sandy? Debby? What do you remember of those intersecting times?
  • Why would Betty have stayed behind in France at Steve’s graduation? Children? Other duties? Finances?
  • Any other stories from the ocean liners? How about the diapers-in-the-hold story from the second crossing?

Family Reunion | Chicago | May 27 – 30, 2016

the Chicago Duncans are hosting our next

Taylor Duncan Descendants Family Reunion

Family Reunion 1986, courtesy of Colin Duncan

Family Reunion 1986, courtesy of Colin Duncan

Fri, May 27 – Mon, May 30, 2016

#1: save the date

#2: send your email and snail mail addresses to

dawn@eightduncans.com

or

Play | Travel | Reconnect | Uproariously Good Fun | Discover | Rest | Celebrate 

DNA Test Reveals Two Ancestors

One grandson of Taylor Duncan ran his Y-chromosomal DNA through Family Tree DNA in 2008. Since the Y-chromosome is passed from father to son, the tested DNA comes from Taylor Albert Duncan. (For you genetics geeks, that’s haplogroup R-P312.) The results reveal two ancestors.

The first is a legendary Irishman named Niall Noígíallach or “Niall of the nine hostages.” Traditional sources date Niall to the late 4th and early 5th centuries and list him as high king of Ireland. He is born in Tara of County Meath to his father’s second wife, probably a Briton.

He grows up to best his father’s first wife and older brothers, cementing his high kingship by taking hostages from the royalty of five provinces of Ireland, plus one each from Scotland, the Saxons, the Britons, and the Franks. Another source claims that the last four hostages all come from Scotland. At any rate, the Uí Néills (literally “sons of Niall,” now known as the O’Neils) reign in Ireland through the 11th century.

Niall dies at the hand of Eochaid, son of the king of Leinster, one of Niall’s tribute kings. Some sources record the circumstance as a war with Leinster, some as a raid on Brittany, France, or Scotland. (It is possible that St. Patrick was abducted in one of Naill’s raids on Brittany.)

Death of Naill of the Nine Hostages

Before he dies, however, Niall sires 12 legitimate sons and countless bastards. In 2006, geneticists at Trinity College Dublin perform a study that reveals 1 in 12 Irishmen, 6% of all Scots, and up to 3 million men worldwide carry Niall’s DNA. This puts Niall in the same category as Genghis Khan, whose DNA shows up in 8% of the Mongolian population and 16 million Asians.

It puts us Eight Duncans descendants in the same category as tons of other people. I hope you enjoy whomever you know named O’Neil. 

The second ancestor the DNA test reveals is much less legendary, but much more useful when trying to build a genealogy. His name is Matthew Duncan. He was born in 1697 and died in 1766 in Louisville, KY. We know nothing about him.

Yet.

If you are interested in exploring your Duncan DNA further, you can contact the Donnachaidh DNA Project.

data provided by Colin Duncan, Bob’s son (2008), and collated by Dawn Harrell [Steve’s daughter] in 2014

Can you add to the story? Please do. Write in the box below. (You may need to click “Leave a Reply” above to make the box, name, and address fields appear.)

  • What stories of our ancestors do you recall being told by Taylor, Virginia, or one of Taylor’s eight children?
  • Have you had your DNA tested? What did you discover?
  • Do you have access to Matthew Duncan’s information, descendants ancestors? What can you share with us?