Category Archives: Kathryn

The Letter in Virginia’s Purse

[Virginia]: To get back to the letter: When Chet [Bitterman] had been—no, it was the day that we found out about Chet, Mom and Dad and I had been out of town, not very far from our center [Loma Linda], that we were on a vacation. And when we were on that vacation, there was an American couple. They were oil people. And we were just chatting away and I just said, “Oh, I’d love to work for somebody who had money.” Now I wanted money, you know, and I just thought it would be great to live with somebody who had money.

So they just took my name down. I mean, they just somehow kept our names. And then they called. She went to a hairdresser that met this other lady and, long story short, they were the Bakers and they lived in Houston. He was a former Rams football player. Her family was the Swansons.

[Eric]: Oilers.

[Virginia]: Oilers, sorry. Wasn’t it the Oilers? What?

[Marcia]: [can’t hear] for drilling with us.

[Kathy]: Houston Oilers.

[Virginia]: No. Oh, it was his friend that played for the Rams. That’s right.

green-giantAnd her family was the Swansons. You know, Swanson Frozen Foods and Green Giant? And her family had all this money. Anyway, I ended up being a nanny for them for three summers after that.

But it was her letter in the purse that had our address on it that got the purse back to me.

Anyway, so I went—and it was just that the lady that we met in Villavicencio, which we called Villao, went to the same hairdresser as Carla Baker. They talked. Carla Baker—they’re good Baptist people—said they were looking for someone to help with the kids during the summers, so they got in contact with me.

Aunt Kathryn went to visit them to check them out. She did. There you go! She went and checked them out because she lived in Houston at the time and she went and checked them out to make sure that they were an OK family for me to go stay with. Yeah, so cool.

Anyway, so then when I graduated, Eric and Mary Lynn met me in her little Karmann Ghila. I had never really driven a car and they made me drive it. It was pouring down rain and it scared me to death because I could not see. I had never really driven. I mean, there was one Jeep on the center that we could all use or whatever. Dad had taken us out once or twice in that thing. But anyway, so I was driving her little Karmann Ghila.

I worked for them for three summers after that. They convinced me I was going to go to Dallas Baptist College. They convinced me I to go to Baylor, so I went to one year at Baylor University in Waco.

Then from there, because Bruce and Gail lived in Safford, I wanted to go to, I went there to go to Bible, no, to a camp, to a church camp, and then decided to return my second year to go to Bible college there. Then I went to that Bible college. It’s not accredited. It was just with a church. I went to a couple years there.

That’s where I met my husband. He was first friends with my sister and then she went off to nursing school. Then Bill and I. I mean, they weren’t romantically involved. They were friends, but—

[Bill]: That you know of.

[Virginia]: Then I met him and we were engaged and we were going to get married one date and then—it seems to run in our family—but, however, he was the one that stopped because he didn’t feel like I had gotten over Doug’s death yet. There was. . . .

[Kathy]: So you just waited and got married later.

[Virginia]: Yeah. Mom and Dad had already gotten their tickets and everything.

[Kathy]: Yeah, I was coming up from [can’t hear], of course, too.

[Virginia]: They ended up coming up twice, just because. So then we were married in ’85.

[Dawn]: What were the dates?

[Virginia]: We were married November 9th of ’85. And then our first daughter [Ashley] was born in July 29th of ’87. Then Doug was born 13 months later, or 13 ½ months later, September 9th of ’88, Douglas. He is named after my brother. Then Savannah was born two years later. She was born October 22d of ‘90.

story told by Virginia (Lee’s daughter) with interjections by Bill Gorman (Virginia’s husband), Eric and Kathy (Lee’s kids), Dawn (Steve’s daughter) and Marcia (Steve’s wife) to the family reunion gathering on January 11, 2014; transcribed by Dawn Duncan Harrell (Steve’s daughter)

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  • What is the name of the place where Kathy was coming from in Colombia for Virginia’s wedding? It sounded like “Something anica” to me.

Duncan Descendants Family Reunion

Chicago | May 27–30, 2016

Dear Duncan Family:

We are excited about the upcoming reunion—less than 1 month away!

We have approximately 34 scheduled to attend. By email, you should have received a file with attendees, their contact information, as well as who has cars (for carpooling).

  • Staying in a Duncan home? Please check the file to see who you will be staying with.
  • Still need a room? Please let Bonnie know asap by clicking here.
  • Prefer a hotel? We recommend the Holiday Inn O’Hare, which is very close. Click here.

We are looking forward to seeing you!  Please let me know if you have any questions or comments or if there is anything I can help you with ahead of your trip!

See you Friday night at 7pm (at Joy’s)!

Bonnie

(ALWAYS UPDATED) WEBSITE:  http://www.duncan2016.myevent.com/ 

Duncan Descendants Family Reunion

Dates:  Friday, May 27 – Monday, May 30, 2016

Nearest Airport:  O’Hare (ORD) is 10 minutes from Duncan HQ.

Other Airport: Midway (MDW) is 40 minutes away.

Duncan Contacts:  Click here for Barb Duncan. Click here for Bonnie Tinder.

Facebook Reunion Site: Click here to post pictures, watch the weekend, comment and connect.

Weekend Lineup

Friday

7:00 pm — Italian Dinner & Welcome Kickoff at Joy Duncan Farina’s Home

Saturday

9:00 am— Breakfast at Taylor Duncan’s Home

11:00 am— Depart for Downtown Chicago Duncan Scavenger Hunt and Chicago Tour (weather permitting)

6:00 pm— Duncan Family Luau at Bonnie Duncan Tinder’s Home

Sunday

10:30 am— Worship Service Together at South Park Church

following— Lunch Together at South Park Church

afternoon— Group Activities around Chicago

5:00 pm— Dinner Together at Portillo’s in Niles

Monday

9:00 am— Park Ridge Memorial Day Parade and Activities

following— Visit to Wally Duncan’s Gravesite, Town of Maine Cemetery

afternoon— Departures

 

 

Register for the Reunion by Friday!

If you plan to join us for the 2016 Duncan Descendants Family Reunion (and you have not done so already), please fill out this 2-minute, preliminary registration form: Duncan Family Reunion 2016

The deadline is this Friday, January 15. Thank you. It helps us plan for you.

We’ve got 30 people signed up. Are we missing you? Sniff. Hope to see you there!

Chicago  |  Memorial Day Weekend  |  Friday, May 27 – Monday, May 30, 2016

Family Reunion 2016

Dear Family,
We are thrilled to be hosting the 2016 Duncan Descendants Family Reunion in Chicago! We’re looking forward to a time of connection and the opportunity to show you around our beautiful city. To gather RSVPs, disseminate logistical information and schedule updates, we have created a website. Please RSVP by January 15, 2016 to Duncan2016.myevent.com.

Duncan Descendants Family ReunionChicago

Memorial Day Weekend

Friday, May 27 – Monday, May 30, 2016

RSVP by January 15

Duncan2016.myevent.com

Duncan HQ: Barb Duncan’s home. You can find the address at Duncan2016.myevent.com .

Airports: O’Hare (ORD) is 10 minutes from Duncan HQ. Midway (MDW) is 40 minutes away.

Recommended Hotel: O’Hare Marriott, 8535 West Higgins Road, Chicago (773-693-4444).  A block of ten rooms has been reserved at a nightly rate of $124 under “Barb Padar/Padar-Duncan.”

Approximate Cost: $50–100/person for food and entertainment, not including transportation

Details: Duncan2016.myevent.com

Contact: Barb Duncan (phone numbers and email address at: Duncan2016.myevent.com)

Proposed Weekend Lineup
Friday
7:00 pm                Gathering and Dinner at Barb Duncan’s Home, Party Room

Saturday
9:00 am                Breakfast at Taylor and Sandra Duncan’s Home
11:00 am              Depart for Downtown Chicago (Joy Duncan Farina hosting; options may include Museum of Science and Industry, Botanical Garden, Lincoln Park Zoo, Brookfield Zoo)
6:00 pm                Family Dinner and Event Together (location TBD)

Sunday
9:00 am                Breakfast at Craig and Bonnie (Duncan) Tinder’s Home
10:45 am              South Park Church Service Together or Free Time
1:00 pm                Lunch Together at Dennis and Joy Duncan Farina’s Home
3:00 pm                Free Time or Downtown Chicago, Part 2 (Barbie Padar hosting)
5:00 pm                Gathering and Buffet Dinner at Barb Duncan’s Home, Party Room

Monday
9:00 am               Park Ridge Memorial Day Parade and Activities
Afternoon           Departures

RSVP by January 15, 2016 to Duncan2016.myevent.com.
And after you’ve done that, forward this link to others in the family who may not have heard!

 

Steve Falters on Dermatology, Kids Contract Chicken Pox

Steve Wearing Laurel Wreath at Medical School Graduation, 1974, courtesy of Marcia Duncan

Steve Wearing Laurel Wreath at Medical School Graduation, 1974, Harley Smith and Marcia Duncan also pictured, courtesy of Marcia Duncan

All his exams were oral and his graduation was also a combination of a—he had to represent his dissertation to a panel of medical doctors. And you could invite all your friends to come. Uncle Harley came over from France for his graduation.

So he sits at a table with this horseshoe of professors and he has to answer questions on his dissertation. Then they pronounced him with his medical degree. Then friends of ours brought a big laurel wreath, Italian friends, and put it around him. We probably have some pictures with us.

[Heidi]: Then they kicked him out of medical school.

Steve Being Booted Out of Medical School, 1974

Steve Being Booted Out of Medical School, 1974

Yes, that’s right. They had a tradition of all your friends line up in two rows and you run down between them and they kick you out of medical school.

Dawn, actually, was about three then, three and a half, and Heidi had just been born. Heidi was supposed to be born after he finished his final exams, but Heidi came a few days early. Heidi was born at something like, what, two o’clock in the morning? Then he had, that morning, he had—was it a pharmacology exam?

[Steve]: Dermatology.

A dermatology exam. So he walks into his examination and the professor asked him, “What happened to you?” because he’d been up most of the night. He said, “I just had a baby!”

Heidi was—basically we had to wait a month before we could fly home, in terms of her age.

We went home via France to visit Harley and Betty one more time.

[Dawn]: We got to stay there extra long.

We got to stay there extra long because one morning we woke up and Dawn had a pock on her face. Lo and behold, she had broken out with chicken pox, so we had to wait until she was no longer contagious before we could get on the flight.

[Stephanie]: Way to go, Dawn.

[TJ]: You all know that you’re eligible for shingles later on?

[Dawn]: I know it. My mother-in-law. . . .

[Stephanie]: Looking forward to it.

[TJ]: Patti had shingles and before it she had chicken pox. When she did, they kept me away from them. I didn’t have chicken pox.

[Victoria]: Maybe you did.

[Virginia?]: I never have had any.

Heidi, at a month old, eventually had one little pock on her face, so I don’t know if that means she had chicken pox or not. Kimberly and Stephanie got it in [Ben Lippen] high school.

[Stephanie]: Our junior year. We both came down with the chicken pox.

[Virginia?]: Ohhhhh. At the same time, huh?

[Stephanie]: Well, we had house-parents and their kids had chicken pox. I babysat for them. I think that’s how it all went down. It’s a little confusing because there were a bunch of people who came down at the same time with it. I was babysitting for them. Also a friend of mine. It was going around the school. It was the only thing I ever came down with in high school. I never even had a cold all through the years we were there. But it came through this particular set of house parents and their children. A bunch of us got it at the same time, but it was right before our final exams our junior year. I just remember that because I was in agony trying to study and we got it bad.

story told by Marcia (Steve’s wife) to the family reunion gathering on January 10, 2014 with interjections from Steve, Dawn, Heidi, and Stephanie (Steve’s daughters), Virginia Gorman (Lee’s daughter), TJ Ramey (Kathryn’s son), and Victoria his wife; transcribed by Dawn Duncan Harrell (Steve’s daughter)

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  • Any other Smith and Steve Duncan family stories from the “extra long” stay in France?
  • Anyone else have chicken pox or other childhood/epidemic diseases stories?
  • Any other stories from the trip home?
  • Mom and Dad/Marcia and Steve, can you send digital copies of the laurel wreath and kicking out photos for this story? Thanks.

Family Reunion | Chicago | May 27 – 30, 2016

the Chicago Duncans are hosting our next

Taylor Duncan Descendants Family Reunion

Family Reunion 1986, courtesy of Colin Duncan

Family Reunion 1986, courtesy of Colin Duncan

Fri, May 27 – Mon, May 30, 2016

#1: save the date

#2: send your email and snail mail addresses to

dawn@eightduncans.com

or

Play | Travel | Reconnect | Uproariously Good Fun | Discover | Rest | Celebrate 

DNA Test Reveals Two Ancestors

One grandson of Taylor Duncan ran his Y-chromosomal DNA through Family Tree DNA in 2008. Since the Y-chromosome is passed from father to son, the tested DNA comes from Taylor Albert Duncan. (For you genetics geeks, that’s haplogroup R-P312.) The results reveal two ancestors.

The first is a legendary Irishman named Niall Noígíallach or “Niall of the nine hostages.” Traditional sources date Niall to the late 4th and early 5th centuries and list him as high king of Ireland. He is born in Tara of County Meath to his father’s second wife, probably a Briton.

He grows up to best his father’s first wife and older brothers, cementing his high kingship by taking hostages from the royalty of five provinces of Ireland, plus one each from Scotland, the Saxons, the Britons, and the Franks. Another source claims that the last four hostages all come from Scotland. At any rate, the Uí Néills (literally “sons of Niall,” now known as the O’Neils) reign in Ireland through the 11th century.

Niall dies at the hand of Eochaid, son of the king of Leinster, one of Niall’s tribute kings. Some sources record the circumstance as a war with Leinster, some as a raid on Brittany, France, or Scotland. (It is possible that St. Patrick was abducted in one of Naill’s raids on Brittany.)

Death of Naill of the Nine Hostages

Before he dies, however, Niall sires 12 legitimate sons and countless bastards. In 2006, geneticists at Trinity College Dublin perform a study that reveals 1 in 12 Irishmen, 6% of all Scots, and up to 3 million men worldwide carry Niall’s DNA. This puts Niall in the same category as Genghis Khan, whose DNA shows up in 8% of the Mongolian population and 16 million Asians.

It puts us Eight Duncans descendants in the same category as tons of other people. I hope you enjoy whomever you know named O’Neil. 

The second ancestor the DNA test reveals is much less legendary, but much more useful when trying to build a genealogy. His name is Matthew Duncan. He was born in 1697 and died in 1766 in Louisville, KY. We know nothing about him.

Yet.

If you are interested in exploring your Duncan DNA further, you can contact the Donnachaidh DNA Project.

data provided by Colin Duncan, Bob’s son (2008), and collated by Dawn Harrell [Steve’s daughter] in 2014

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  • What stories of our ancestors do you recall being told by Taylor, Virginia, or one of Taylor’s eight children?
  • Have you had your DNA tested? What did you discover?
  • Do you have access to Matthew Duncan’s information, descendants ancestors? What can you share with us?